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to reclaim Newsgroups
update July 17, 2000
The first thing you can do to help reclaim newsgroups is very easy, and requires no help or joining with anyone. You can do it right away.
After you do that, take a look at the WHAT TO DO page.
First, do not depend upon so-called "leaders" to do it for you. Do not depend on any others to do it. We are not leaders, but rather information providers.
My personal view is that I've provided much information from my own and others experience, and if others are actually willing to make changes, they have the situation in their own hands.
I have written, and Edmond Wollmann has written, that we are not here to do all the work of writing to ISPs, or NET ABUSE people, to complain about the activites in these newsgroups.
Edmond wrote, once, that he had made enormous progress in alt.astrology, so that the newsgroup was relatively clear of disruptive influence. He also wrote that he had used much of his time doing it, and that others should contribute.
Second, there have been so many lies, so much propaganda, placed on USENET and the web, please learn the truth at:
FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)
of Newsgroup Chaos
Third, learn _the methods that work_, and implement them. This cannot be accomplished by one person in a newsgroup unless that person uses an inordinate amount of time from his/her day. I will not do it, and I don't believe Edmond Wollmann will, either.
The methods are shown from a linked page, from the above referenced URL. That page is...
On the page detailing what can be done, there is something about
There is false propaganda in newsgroups for the purpose of maintaining control, and these announcements
provide references to proof of what the real situation is -- that the propaganda is false. You can read
detail about What can be done about Newsgroup Chaos, which is what the /whattodo.html page is, after you post
public service announcements.
It is not necessary to take the time to join with others who are part of
a group to repost these announcments.
Just look at the newsgroups alt.paranormal and news.admin.net-abuse.usenet. Place any public service
announcement reposts that do not appear in the same newsgroup you want to repost in. Try DEJANEWS
to look for posts from a longer time span if you want to.
The word "spam" is usually a false accusation for purposes of control of
newsgroups. Do not be intimidated
by the sight of the word, or threats. If you are concerned, read /whattodo.html and related links.
A complete overview of the newsgroup situation, with more linked pages, from::
The following was recently added to...
It invoked the anger of the more intelligent of the pseudo-skeptics, and sparked a flame war. Of the pseudo-skeptics I can credit with intelligence and knowledge of the Newsgroup situation, the more heated and emotional their objections, the more potent, in all probablilty, are the methods they object to.
In article <3614C85D.2C9E@virgin.net>,
Steps to reclaim these newsgroups.
1. Do not bow to intimidation.
2. Inform your ISP of what you are doing.
3. Report each off topic
poster to their ISP each time
they violate the Charter by posting off
topic. Posting off topic is posting messages
which do not discuss the title subject of
4. Do this everytime they
post. The ISP will eventually
take action against their customer.
5. In your complaint, enclose
full headers and a copy of
6. Keep a copy yourself.
7. If the ISP does not take
action against a customer
violating their AUP, contact the ISP partner companys
and subsideries and inform them they are breaching
practice requirements. CC to Executive Directors.
8. Do not be put off by Policy
Managers. Contact the ISP
and take your greivance up with higher management.
9. The above system works.
It is not included in most
FAQs available, because the FAQs are invariably
composed by people who work in the industry.
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